PG: And CAIR is a Muslim Brotherhood group --
EB:
That is the organization, right, Council on American-Islamic Relations,
they said these are hate ads and part of a larger problem.
PG:
CAIR was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the largest terrorist
funding trial in our nation’s history. They were named as Muslim
Brotherhood. They’re a Hamas group in America. Hamas is – the first
paragraph of their charter calls for the annihilation of Israel. Is CAIR
ever gonna support me and support freedom? Of course not. They’re not -- to me, they’re not a legitimate group. To me they’re a subversive group whose stated goal, according to an internal captured document in the Holy Land trial, was to eliminate and destroy Western civilization from within. So that is a compliment. Seriously.
EB:
OK, let me ask you about this issue about savages again, because I
think that is part of the problem here. At least -- when people look at
that ad -- it is a word chosen – will you admit this? – to make people
recoil and pay attention.
PG: No.
EB: To poke up. To perk up and say, Look at this.
PG:
No, it’s an accurate word. The definition of savage works, because any
war on innocent civilians is savagery. Would you call those that
beheaded a colleague, Daniel Pearl, savages?
EB: I would call them murderers.
PG:
You wouldn’t call them savages? I would. I would call them savages. I
would call Nazis, that slaughtered millions and millions of Jews and
gypsies and homosexuals, I would call them savages. So I think now it’s
not arbitrary: I think when you go to a dictionary and you look up what
savage means, and that’s the definition –
EB: Uncivilized and barbarous.
PG: That’s right.
EB:
So lemme ask you something else. When people see your name, you are a
controversial person, which I know that you say that you’re not, but you
are. I’m gonna say that I think that that is the case.
PG: You’re allowed, you’re allowed.
EB: All right. You have done other things as well. Obviously, as I mentioned, you were against the Ground Zero Mosque.
PG: I was against the Ground Zero Mosque.
EB: You have questioned the authenticity of President Barack Obama being born in the United States.
PG:
No, that’s not true. That is absolutely not true. I ran a digital
forensic examination calling into questions alterations that were made
to the Certification of Live Birth. I don’t know what’s on the long
form. I don’t know what’s on the vault copy. But I did say – and I
didn’t say it, an actual digital forensic examination specialist said,
there were alterations made to the original COLB. All I said was, What’s
on the original vault copy that he doesn’t want us to know? That was
all I said. Now, they change it, and they morph it – listen, I’ve
written hundreds of articles. Two books. I update Atlas Shrugs, my blog,
every day. You don’t have to guess as to my position. There’s no
ambiguity to my position. You can read me.
EB: You said the president was a Muslim.
PG:
I never said that. I never said he was a Muslim. I said, whether he is
or he isn’t, what would he be doing differently? And--
EB: But
isn’t that – but see, that, this -- these are the rhetorical games that
one can play. Saying that let’s look into a digital forensic of an
American citizen’s birth certificate
is calling into question whether they were born here. Saying whether
you are or aren’t a Muslim when you’ve been very passionate about your
Christian faith is raising the question of someone, whether someone is
or isn’t a Muslim, as if somehow being a Muslim is perceived as being
negative.
PG: But you’re accusing me of something I never said.
Let’s discuss what I said. I’m happy to discuss everything that I said.
The same thing with Barack Obama. I don’t know what’s on the vault copy.
Every other president has released the vault except him. It makes you
question. Now you’re gonna say, “Pamela, you’re not allowed to
question.” This is America. I can question. And frankly, I still think
it’s a question. I do, I think it’s a question. And I do think that
Obama is Islamophilic – yes, that’s what I said. I didn’t say he was a
Muslim. There’s no way to know what’s in the man’s heart. And frankly,
by their fruits ye shall know them, so we know him. I don’t know what’s
in his heart, and I don’t care.
EB: The Center for American Progress calls you an “Islamophobia grass roots organizer.”
PG:
Yeah. And American Center for Progress is an uber left-wing,
Soros-funded, subversive organization. I mean, these are not legitimate
organizations if you’re a rational, thinking person that loves individual
rights, that believes in individual rights over statism, that believes
in individual rights over collectivism. I’m sorry, but these are not
legitimate organizations.
EB: Who you gonna vote for?
PG: Really? I’m voting for President Romney. So here we go: Geller Endorses Romney, there’s your headline!