Wednesday, January 11, 2012

The U.S. Constitution versus Islamic Sharia Law.

There is a legal battle going on in America today between those who wish to protect our laws and freedoms as defined in the United States Constitution and those who represent the political goals of Islam to enforce Islamic Sharia Law upon Muslim interests in America. The Constitution is the Supreme law in America and is equally applied to everyone who resides here regardless of ethnic origin or religious affiliation (or lack of one). Whenever an immigrant comes to America they must take an Oath of Allegiance to abide by the laws of our country before they can become United States citizens. This is the exact oath as prescribed by Federal law; 8 C.F.R. Part 337 (2008):
I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.
This Oath of Allegiance has been in effect since the American Revolution. The first officially recorded Oaths of Allegiance were made on May 30, 1778 at Valley Forge. It was General George Washington who insisted upon an oath of allegiance from his troops and ordered that no one but an American be placed on guard.

But today we have a group of people who desire to have a different set of laws apply to them in America. They are Muslims who follow the political/religious movement called Islam and their law is called Sharia. The Islamic cult does not recognize any form of government instituted by man, only a government that follows the laws of Allah. Such is the government of Saudi Arabia that forbids the existence of any religion other than Islam and arrests and prosecutes anyone who wears a cross or carries a bible. Muslims appearing in various courts in America have asked to have their Sharia laws applied to them in place of our civil and criminal laws. This has become so commonplace that some states legislatures have begun to worry that there would be two different sets of laws and Sharia would become a substitute for the Constitution. The state of Oklahoma passed such a law that would forbid courts within the state to implement any religious or international law and the U.S. Court of Appeals agreed with lawyers representing the Hamas terrorist supporting group CAIR to overturn the Oklahoma law because it would discriminate against Muslims.

Sharia law declares that there are two different classes of people, those who believe in Islam and those who do not, and they do not apply the laws equally. While equality is one of the foundations of U.S. law, a non-Muslim, under Sharia, is not allowed to inherit any part of the estate of a deceased Muslim. Under Sharia law a Muslim is permitted to commit acts of violence that is not permitted in civil law and this was brought out in a New Jersey court that initially ruled a Muslim man could beat his wife. Sharia law forbids freedom of speech, treats women as less equal to men in cases of rape and adultery and family disputes. Sharia law calls for the most barbaric and inhumane treatment of anyone convicted for petty crimes of theft with punishments of cutting off hands and feet. Sharia law says that no one may criticize Islam or even use the texts in the Koran or the life of Mohammad that would cause embarrassment to Muslims. In plain language, Sharia law is a total contradiction to the laws of the United States. In the cases of Muslim immigrants who have taken the Oath of Allegiance to become U.S. Citizens, they should all be deported for committing perjury and every Muslim who was born in America should be required to affirm that they will abide by our laws and none other in order to live here. The subject of perjury brings to light another aspect of Islamic law that is the practice of Taqiyya that says it is OK for a Muslim to lie whenever to protect themselves from non-Muslims and to promote the advancement of Islam. For Sharia law to be allowed in our courts it would be virtually impossible to prosecute any Muslim for any crime against a non-Muslim or even against the United States, itself.


  1. What is so pathetic, Oldironsides, is that the vast majority of U.S. citizens just don't get what is going on under the surface in this country.

    Excellent post here.

  2. Mrs. AL, I think I mentioned this once or twice here some months ago. My first personal experience with Sharia law was when my father died in Morocco in 1965. He was a Muslim and an naturalized American citizen who was born in that country but came here when he was a boy. He went back to Morocco when he retired. His grown family of brothers and sisters ordered his New York attorneys to deliver his estate to Morocco and said that his sons in America could not inherit anything unless we converted to Islam. We did not convert to Islam and the lawyers did not not send anything there but my father's business assets in Morocco was distributed to his brothers. Keep in mind that Morocco was a 'friendly' ally of America and not as fundamentalist Islamic country as Saudi Arabia. And that was 50 years ago, not today. And to make matters worse, our own IRS made the estate pay an inheritance tax on the value of the entire Morocco assets.

    1. Wow ... had not read of your experience before. Great info and insight. What is remarkable is what you faced 50 years ago. Going back further ... "... to the shores of Tripoli ..." eh?

  3. I have never heard this before. Thank you for sharing your knowledge of the Muslim inner workings.
    What would you suggest as how to get involved to keep this from becoming worse?

  4. Jessica, If you want to get involved, first educate yourself. Click the links in the left margin and visit those web sites. They have much more info than I have and you can learn a lot from them. Then, write to your elected officials, write to the newspapers and talk to your friends and neighbors. Run for office. Your local school board or city council is a good start. Join the local political party (don't waste your time with the Democrats) and go to meetings to express your concerns. I have done all of these things in the last 50 years and now it up to young people like you. You are our last hope.

  5. Thank you, I will. I have talked to people about it but most of my friends, even the Christian ones, don't really care. It's like they are blind and deceived.

    1. It is a learning curve for Americans to be sure. No one wants to invest time probing into foreign principals that we think are irrelevant. But they no longer are. With a huge Muslim population, we have to learn to distinguish between the good guys and the bad guys and that, for me, is where the difficulty lies. We have no choice. Education is our biggest defense against principals that we can never adopt in this country. When the "bad guys " get that it is they who must conform, they will accept it or go home. Don't be deceived and please start getting clear that the enemy walks among us.


  7. I know it is wrong to hate, yet I hate Moslems and I hate Islam. A Venezuelan friend of mine had gone to Saudi Arabia (this was before Hugo Chavez became president) on an Oil fact finding trip for a Venezuelan Oil company. He stayed at a hotel near the Airport. He was a devout Roman Catholic, and had taken out a Rosary to pray before going to bed. The next day, he left for his meeting at the Saudi Oil Ministry, and had put the Rosary in his suitcase, which he forgot to close and lock.

    The4 Rosary was discovered when the all male cleaning crew went to clean his room. The religious police werre notifed, and when he returned to his hotel, he was arrested for spreading Christianity. All he had done was pray a rosay in private. Sharia law was applied to this friend of mine, and he was sentenced to death. Only the intervention of the Venezuelan embassy and the Venezuelan ambassador prevented his head from beaing chopped off. He was expelled from Saudi Srabia.

    This could happen in the US. Some bleeding heart judge decides the Constituttion is not applicable to Mulims, and we all lose. Imagine a Muslim claiming he had the right to kill his wife because she was disobedient, and it is permitted under Sharia. There goes the US.

    I believe the next great world war will be the Islamic world against the non-Islamic world. Islam needs to be erradicted like a nest of cock roaches. I hope that when the Thrid World War does happen, that Islam will be wiped out.

  8. Wow, you are all very ignorant. Oldironsides makes the first judgement by calling Islam a cult and other people calling them the enemy. Islam is a growing religion and about 1 in 5 people are Muslim. You base your assessments off of a small percentage of Islamic radicals you see on the news.

    As for Sharia law, Islamic countries such as Algeria, Bangladesh, Jordan, Lebanon, Morocco, Palestine, Syria, Tunisia and Indonesia, which has the largest Muslim population, does not implement Islamic Penal Law, but rely on a modern criminal code, with typical punishments and fines. Most Muslim countries do not have a legal system based entirely on Sharia Law. Some countries, such as Malaysia have mixed legal systems.

    There is more to the Sharia Penal code than just the "hadd" capital punishments you refer to. There are Claims of Man and Claims of God (Allah). There are different levels of offenses and punishments, just like our penal code and there are certain elements that the crimes must meet in order to implement certain punishments.

    Our laws are based on the Constitution, which was founded by level-headed, religious men. We have the freedom of religion and religious beliefs are not going to change the constitution.

    What if Muslims based their entire opinion about Catholics on the small percentage of priests that molest(ed) young boys? Not fair is it? Radicals misinterpret some Quran verses and so do other religions.

    The constitution will not conform to any religious based law. I will agree that comparing the U.S. Constitution to Sharia Law is like comparing apples to oranges, but if you'd like a true, EDUCATED comparison, read the book "Islamic Law (Sharia)" by Prof. Raj Bahala.

    So Jessica, if you do want to get involved, please do EDUCATE yourself and make an unbiased assessment.

    1. Want to know about the application of Islamic Sharia Law, get a copy of the book Reliance of the Traveler. What Anonymous writes about the penal laws of Sharia in the countries mentioned is misleading. Take the laws against Blasphemy. Go back and do your research. Maybe you can explain where those radical clerics get their ideas from when 60% of the Qur'an devotes itself with the condemnation of no-Muslims.

  9. There are different schools of Islam and it's all how you interpret the Qu'ran because there is no real law against blasphemy in Islam. There is no Arabic word for blasphemy.

    Muslims don't believe the notion that Muhammad was divine. Christianity appoints the term blasphemy because we are unique in the claim that Jesus was both fully human and divine.

    The book "Islamic Law" is written by a professor who is an American lawyer and a Catholic such as yourself. Relieance of the Traveler is written by a Muslim. There is a big difference.

    I am Christian myself and by no means defending radical Muslims; however, I know people are quick to judge off of a small minority of the population and have taken the Islamic Law class at the University of Kansas with Prof. Raj Bhala himself.

    I'm not trying to have a long, drawn out argument with you, but just know that Christianity is getting smaller and Islam is growing, even with these so called OUTRAGEOUS laws.

    Maybe put some time into being a disciple of Jesus Christ and promote Christianity instead of bashing another one.

    1. Where did you learn that nonsense about different schools of Islam? Maybe from someone trying to whitewash the subject? Try this on for size. ‘These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.” spoken by Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Turkey’s Prime Minister since 2003.

      The true difference in perception of what Islam is depends on how devout the follower of Islam is. Sort of like the Christian who goes to church every Sunday and the one who does not. Any Muslim who reads everything in the Qur'an and believes he is obligated to follow the commands given to him in this book only needs to be reminded by some radical cleric that when he is told to hate or wage jihad against all non-Muslims he must do so. There is too much to fit in this space but here is a sample from the Qur'an. Quite a difference between the love and peace preached by Jesus in The New Testatment.

      Koran 9:29
      Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam) till they pay the jiziya (poll tax) with the hand of humility.

      Koran 8:12
      Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them."

      Here Mohammed is giving step by step instruction on how to torture and kill Kafirs if they don't follow Islam.

      Koran 4:144
      Believers, do not choose the unbelievers rather than the faithful as your friends. Would you give Allah a clear proof against yourselves ?

      This verse clearly states that a Muslim can only befriend a Muslim. Mohammed in order to ensure that his followers will not befriend and get influenced by people of other religions, revealed this verse. This verse illustrates that if a Muslim befriends a Non-Muslim than the wrath of Allah will be on him. Therefore in Islam, people of other religions should be treated with contempt, disrespect and cruelty.

      Koran 47:4
      When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take ransom from them, until War shall lay down her burdens.

      Koran 5:33-34
      The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom; Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is Forgiving, merciful.

      Instructions to Muslims regarding Christians and Jews

      Koran 5:51
      Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide the wrong-doers.

      In this verse Prophet Mohammed is clearly instructing his followers never to befriend a Christian or a Jew. Because if they take a Christian or a Jew as a friend, they will commit a wrong deed and Allah's wrath will be on them.

      Koran 5:57
      Believers, do not seek the friendship of the infidels and those who were given the Book before you, who have made your religion a jest and a pastime...

      Here "those who were given the Book before you" refers to Christians and Jews. Once again Mohammed is warning Muslims of all time never to befriend a Christian or a Jew.

      Koran 98:1-8
      The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.

      Here "People of The Book" refers to Christians and Jews. So according to Prophet Mohammed, Christians, Jews and pagans are the vilest of all creatures in the world. Islam in deed holds a high respect for people of other religions !!

  10. Oldir, I suggest you pull a few quotes from the New American Bible, or whichever King James Bible, and see how violent the OLD Testament is. Besides, you only put a mask over ignorance when you quote a few sentences which can completely be out of context to the over all meaning of the paragraph or the book for that matter. I am a Catholic with a theology degree from a Catholic university. Your comments are divisive; is that the teaching of Jesus Christ?

  11. If you have a theology degree then you should know the difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament.

    1. All I can say is this is an extremely scary world . God teaches you to to even love your enemies , don't lie , don't cheat etc , ..... I believe it's possible there are many more people interacting in faiths that commit violent crimes , because it takes a MUCH stronger person to remain peaceful even in times anger is brought upon them. Society seems to be weeker everday. Even basic family people are not kind, considerate, helpful and cheerful to help one another. If you are a happy peppy person the average person doesn't understand that anymore. They should have kept saying ONE NATION UNDER GOD in all schools. It's very simple and obvious, if everyone just followed the 10 commandments from the BIBLE . The world would remain amazingly beautiful. But we have choice , but it's always easier for most to choose the path of weekness which is not usually the correct way to treat one another. I have friends who are Persian who have told me many scary things. Tell me , why would a GOD that is strong require you to kill everyone else that is not the same. If you are truly strong , there is no need. To bad the world cannot take 1 day and say I am thankful for this amazing place. You can kill me because I believe in God , but who knows maybe my soul is stronger without my body !!! I think people that are violent towards one another and that force children and families to kill are EXTREMELY WEAK. !!!!!!


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